wow

your upset cuz your guy did not win the election?

okay, first. i am not iranian. therefore, i did not vote.

second, they announced the winner before the polls had even closed, with numbers that were clearly fraudulent. i have read reports that this was followed by hauling out boxes of ballots and burning them.

ie, the election was shamelessly rigged. that's why everyone's so pissed. and that's why people are taking to the streets in protest, enduring beatings, gassings, arrest, and torture. and death, which is why the colors of protest have gone from green, to green and black.

i posted links with the image so people could educate themselves on the topic. if you're curious, you should read them.

The thing is I was following the elctions and no they did not say who won before the election was over. They had an estimate of who won. In the U.S. Musavi won by majority but in Iran Ahmadinejad Won. There seems to be a lot of people out there right? Well you know 38 or so percent of the 82 percent (voting was a 82 percent turnout)of the entire population is A LOT of people.
Is there any pictures of these burning votes? or are they just rumors? People who voted for Mussavi and it is summer so they have nothing better to do than go outside and burn down buildings and cars..


which brings me to another point?
what the heck are those guys doing?
they are ruining their own cause by destroying dormitories and innocent people's cars.

... are you kidding me? the protesters are not the ones breaking into the dormitories. that's the basij, breaking in, arresting students and smashing computers.

and i'm aware of the voter turnout rates. i'm also aware that there were 4 candidates, one of whom has 4000 staffers throughout iran helping him try to get elected, but who only got like 3000 votes. even ignoring that somebody besides the staffers were sure to vote for him, what happened? did 1000 of his staffers forget to vote?

what are you reading that gives you the impression that the iranian people just decided to pitch a fit over nothing?

btw, the iranian government has kicked out most of the foreign press and shut down most of the communications to the outside world, so, yes, most of the information about what's going on IS hearsay--people with camera-phones, using twitter and proxies to get word out.

that doesn't make them liars.

and for any of the future curiosity seekers that come this way--i am getting most of my info from here:

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that's the 25th thread on fark following the aftermath of the iranian election. the first post in each thread is invariably a sum-up of everything's that gone down and all the major players. the fellow organizing the information has actually earned props from other news media for his clarity and attention to detail. such as from here:
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within the threads you'll find other information, such as tweet-grids, news links, etc, that can help you dig deeper.

i should point out that i don't care who iran elects. green has become the color of the protesters because most of them are mousavi supporters, and green was the color he was using. ahmadinejad can be president forever--so long as he is fairly elected to each term, and doesn't respond to protests with the weapons of the basij, arrest, guns, communication lock-down and all the things the iranian government has done this time. these are human rights violations, and not to be tolerated.

This whole thing is so upsetting. And anyone discussing the fact that the election has not been conclusively proven to be rigged; eff you. Even if, SOMEHOW, it's proven that it wasn't... the correct response to incorrect accusations like that is never KILLING people just for objecting.

...Ahem.

This is a beautiful piece. Very striking and makes a big impression. ♥

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Ayries

Originality is the fine art of remembering what you hear but forgetting where you heard it.
Laurence J. Peter

The winner was announced within hours of the polls closing there. This is a country without electronic voting. Are you foolish enough to believe that an entire country's worth of paper ballots can be counted in a few hours?

Never mind the reports from those guarding the ballet boxes that they weren't allowed to see empty before hand. So ballet stuffing is also likely to have occurred.

This wasn't exactly subtle and the people of Iran have every right to be angry and make that displeasure known. Even those that voted in favor of the current government should be given pause that what they wanted never really mattered in the first place.

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"Each man, one way.
Each horse, one stance.
Each church, one buddha.
Each master to his own technique."

I don't know much about Iranian politics so I am not going to argue about the nuances.

I just know that the way the Iranian government has been acting towards its citizens is wrong. I hope that the Iranian people get the change they want and that they can live the way they want to. I mean, if that many people are protesting they must have something they believe in strongly.

I like this piece, especially considering that a lot of the protesters have been young women. I like her determined expression.

Each location counted their own cotes then sent it on to the main location. I helped the US voting for Iranian president and we counted it ourselves then sent it off to Iran. So I am thinking that is how it was in Iran and that is why it was done so fast